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[lotus0kid]

Less than an hour until Rifftrax Live! So excited, so excited, so excited, so excited. I've only seen two whole Rifftrax commentaries myself- Attack of the Clones and Transformers (the ONLY reason I would ever watch either of those movies). They were all right, didn't really blow me away. The "best of the superhero movies" YouTube vids hermione_vader posted were better- maybe they came later, when the guys had really found their rhythm? Aaanyway, I fully expect to laugh me ass off tonight. If nothing else, watching any funny film/show/whatever with a roomful of people laughing along makes whatever you're watching ten times funnier. Seriously, I've noticed, when I've tried indoctrinating friends with MST3K. I'm especially thrilled to know Mike, Kevin, and Bill will be singing a song. I listened to both volumes of Clowns in the Sky on the way to and from work today, so my head is stuffed to bursting with MST3K tunes. This will also be my first ever viewing of Plan 9 From Outer Space. I know it's been riffed before, but I never bothered to check it out. Clearly, I wasn't supposed to until now. Nice how that works out.

So, final count on my one-episode-a-night MST marathon (I never mentioned that I really don't like watching more than one episode at a time- the movies are just too bad for me to handle in the true marathon format.):
The Touch of Satan
The Screaming Skull
The Space Children (unintended, additional Peggy Webber marathon FTW)
Devil Fish
The Sword and the Dragon

All total classics, will watch again. But first... Rifftrax live!

Comments

[visiblemarket.livejournal.com]

Heh. I saw "Attack of the Clones" unironically. The shame!

I hope you have fun!

[lotus0kid.livejournal.com]

Yeah, okay, maybe I did too.. but there was still a chance it could've been good!

Indeed I did! Plan 9 From Outer Space is a really, REALLY terrible movie. When the sort of main alien guy throws this absolutely epic hissy fit, calling humanity "stupid" and slamming his fists down on his instruments, right after delivering this incredibly long, convuluted monologue trying to explain.. something, I don't even know what, there were metaphors, lots of them- that's when I really lost it, no riffing required, although that was expertly done as well.

[visiblemarket.livejournal.com]

But you've at least seen the other, better Star Wars movies. That's the only one I've seen all the way through.

*snort* It's Ed Wood, right? It's like the classic Bad Movie. I saw a clip of it somewhere (apparently one of the actors used to be wrestler) and it really did look awful.

[lotus0kid.livejournal.com]

Oh dear. That's just not right.

Indeed it is the work of Ed Wood, the man who mistook gobs and gobs of enthusiasm for talent. And the former wrestler would be Mister Tor Johnson, a repeat offender in MST3K's canon.

[visiblemarket.livejournal.com]

I know, I know. One day I will watch them. I actually own them (at least my family does).

*snort* Have you seen Ed Wood? I watched that movie when I was still much too young to get it, but I still remember the squid, and some other choice moments of hilarity.

[lotus0kid.livejournal.com]

They are worth a look. The first three, anyway. You'll like Han and Leia.

I haven't! I want to, though. There was a squid? I doubt it was a Watchmen caliber squid, considering the subject.

[visiblemarket.livejournal.com]

I know I loved Carrie Fisher when she went on 30 Rock, at least.

There is a squid. It is rather epic. And about as dead as the Watchmen one.

[lotus0kid.livejournal.com]

Leia is kickass, though it doesn't quite last through all three movies.

No kidding. Maybe I'll drop by the video store tomorrow.

[visiblemarket.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I remember gleaning that from...somewhere. Fandom osmosis, I swear, I know more about the shows and books I haven't seen/read than the ones I have.

You should. Johnny Depp in a cashmere sweater and a skirt, where can you go wrong?

[lotus0kid.livejournal.com]

Definitely fandom osmosis. I'd say it's pretty impossible to not know anything about Star Wars.

Indeed! I think I'd like to take a gander at that. Y'know, just to say I have.

[visiblemarket.livejournal.com]

I've referenced the series several times in fic. Per the head canon of Claude being a fan.

It's certainly...memorable. Sarah Michelle Gellar is in it as his girlfriend. Although actually parts of it are kind of heartbreaking.

[lotus0kid.livejournal.com]

Hee, Claude likes it because there's so much to complain about.

Sarah Michelle Gellar? Wow, she must be pretty darn young. Yeah, I can see that, it being the story of a spectacular failure and all.

[visiblemarket.livejournal.com]

*snort* That makes sense. I always picture him sneaking into the theater on the first run. Peter would've had to watch it on the second. Or not at all, and he watches it with Claude, and has to listen to him complain about every single thing.

Heh. Sorry, I got that totally wrong. Not Buffy, what's her name, Sarah Jessica Parker is who I meant. Three named women on seminal tv shows, I get confused.

[lotus0kid.livejournal.com]

Aw, Peter's more interested in Claude's complaining than in the movies.

Ah, okay. Man, Sarah Jessica Parker turns up in all sorts of movies.

[visiblemarket.livejournal.com]

Of course he is. I would totally watch Claude complain about Star Wars for hours.

She does indeed. Apparently she is pretty good in it, though.

[lotus0kid.livejournal.com]

Mm, same. It would be highly entertaining.

That's good to know. That must've been a strange movie to film, really. A film about the worst filmmaker to ever live. I mean, how do you even start?

[visiblemarket.livejournal.com]

Of course I would really listen to Claude complain about just about anything.

There's parts where you can tell the actors are having a whole lot of fun filming it. The scene involving the squid is probably the best of them.

[lotus0kid.livejournal.com]

Most likely, yeah. I'm pretty sure his complaining could make anything entertaining.

Aww, well, I'm sure Ed Wood would appreciate that, if nothing else.

[visiblemarket.livejournal.com]

He sure is fun when he's complaining about Peter ;)

That is true. I think he'd see it as a worthy tribute to his memory. And honestly, he comes off very well, so adorably clueless but still sweet.

[lotus0kid.livejournal.com]

Peter might not agree, but he'll get over it once he stops being on the receiving end.

"Adorably clueless but still sweet," huh? That's good to hear.

[visiblemarket.livejournal.com]

Or at least once the receiving end is more verbal teasing than being hit with a stick.

It's weird to see Johnny Depp like that, frankly, but he's very...good looking.

[lotus0kid.livejournal.com]

Very true.

Hee, I do enjoy seeing the dashing leading men-types playing clueless sweet characters. Like Brad Pitt in The Mexican, or Burn After Reading (he was actually the only redeeming feature of the latter).

[visiblemarket.livejournal.com]

Although really, who wouldn't prefer that?

Aw, Brad Pitt is so sweet in Burn After Reading. I was crushed when he got shot.

[lotus0kid.livejournal.com]

Mm, you have a point there. I can't really think of a situation in which getting beaten with a stick trumps verbal teasing of even the most biting type.

Me too! He was like the only decent human being, besides the gym owner, who also died, IIRC. What an awful movie.

[visiblemarket.livejournal.com]

Well, some people might indeed appreciate one more than the other. Or so I hear. From the internets. No judgments.

Oh man, and they both died so awfully. I'm all for dark comedies, but at one point, even I'm like...no. I mean, Fargo is bloody and gloomy as hell for the most part, but the ending doesn't gut you quite as much because, well, one of the good characters gets to be awesome.

[lotus0kid.livejournal.com]

Yeah, of course, y'know, unless you like that kind of thing.

I haven't seen Fargo, but I'm glad to hear that. I really had high hopes for Burn After Reading. Such a let-down.

[visiblemarket.livejournal.com]

Some people do indeed like that kind of thing. I'm pretty sure Peter isn't one of them. Or at least he's a lot better at not showing it then you'd expect him to be.

Fargo really is quite good. It has one of my favorite female characters ever in Marge Gunderson, who while, like, eight (maybe nine) months pregnant and waddling around Minnesota in the middle of the winter manages to be brilliant and take down two kidnappers pretty much entirely by herself. But there is a lot of blood. Which is why I too had high hopes for Burn After Reading. It got some good reviews from critics I trust and everything.

[lotus0kid.livejournal.com]

Heh, some fic writers out there would disagree.

Wow, I didn't know she was pregnant too. That's dang impressive. Okay, okay, so tomorrow, I'll run out and get 28 Days Later, Ed Wood, and Fargo. I like puzzling the clerks down at Blockbuster.

[visiblemarket.livejournal.com]

*laughs* I think I have seen that fic, yes. I don't know why in addition to being the fandom bicycle, Peter is just assumed to be into...a lot of things. Again, no judgments, just...interesting.

She is hugely pregnant. And to the Coen brothers' credit, she does not give birth at the end of the movie. I cannot stress how much of a relief that to know in the back of my mind that the pregnant lady is not going to pop any minute. And her and her husband are so cute together. *snort* That's the best viewing list ever.

[lotus0kid.livejournal.com]

You know, I think it's probably because he is the fandom bicycle. It's tough work, you know.

Heh, that's a nice touch. She just happens to be pregnant. That's it, it's not a plot point in any way, shape, or form. Impressive. I'm trying to remember what my last one was- I know there was Scanners, Yes Man, and.. something else. Something recent, hmm...

[visiblemarket.livejournal.com]

Poor Peter. No wonder he's in such good shape, though ;)

Seriously. I mean there's the undercurrent message of even in the midst of all that death and destruction, there's still life and goodness, etc, but it's subtle. Heh, isn't Scanners the one where the guy's head blows up? They show clips of it on TDS and TCR all the time.

[lotus0kid.livejournal.com]

LOL no kidding. Quite the work-out, that fandom-bicycling, which actually sounds like something else.

Aww, that's lovely. That's in Fido too a bit- they wrote it in when Carrie Ann Moss got pregnant. Yup, that's the flick. Had to see it for myself.

[visiblemarket.livejournal.com]

He should be a model. It might actually cause him less mental strain then his actual life (and his fandom life, because fandom-bicycling really can't be good for the psyche).

I had not heard of Fido, and just looked it up, and it sounds hilarious. As for Scanners...is it any good? I think the head-blowing up turned me off a bit, but I hear it's pretty early on.

[lotus0kid.livejournal.com]

That sounds like a good idea. Really, I'd say hopping on one of those boats from Deadliest Catch would be less mental strain than what he's dealing with now.

Fido is excellent. Gorgeous cinemtography and sets and costumes, great rare '50s tunes, hilarious social commentary- the works. Scanners was okay. I don't think the plot was as well-developed as it could be. Stuff just kind of happened, without much of a basis.

[visiblemarket.livejournal.com]

Heh. Oh, Peter, you poor, poor boy. He, Claude, and Molly totally need to join up and be the nonconventional family she should've gotten with Matt and Mohinder.

Aw, that sounds pretty cool. I'll put it on the netflix queue.

[lotus0kid.livejournal.com]

Yup! Maybe they can jet off to India so Mohinder's mom won't be lonely.

Please do! It's a treat.

[c-quinn.livejournal.com]

Attack of the Clones and Transformers

Oh, AOTC.... Crap in its purest form.

Have fun!

[lotus0kid.livejournal.com]

Agreed. My goodness. Did you ever read that article this one guy wrote about how true Star Wars fans actually hate Star Wars and almost everything about it? Ye-eah. As for Transformers.. I really wasn't paying much attention, except to get the jokes. The rest of the time, I was pitying John Turturro, who I quite like in other roles.

I did! Speaking of crap, Plan 9 From Outer Space did not disappoint in the monumentally wretched waste of film category, and acted as the perfect foil to Mike, Kevin, and Bill's riffing.

[c-quinn.livejournal.com]

Did you ever read that article this one guy wrote about how true Star Wars fans actually hate Star Wars and almost everything about it?

I've never read that but it's entirely true.

Plan 9 From Outer Space did not disappoint in the monumentally wretched waste of film category, and acted as the perfect foil to Mike, Kevin, and Bill's riffing.

I'm glad you enjoyed the riffing then. :)

[lotus0kid.livejournal.com]

And heeere you go! It's really quite a fascinating look at fandom's relationship with canon.

I'm pretty sure a world does not exist where it is possible to not enjoy the riffing of one Mike Nelson, Kevin Murphy, and Bill Corbett. So, you know, it works out well.

[c-quinn.livejournal.com]

And heeere you go! It's really quite a fascinating look at fandom's relationship with canon.

Thank you for the link. That was a perfect summation of the Star Wars experience; it's a far more superior idea than execution. I still think George Lucas had someone else write the originals because, honestly, no one can become so utterly bad at.... everything.

The less said about Jar Jar Binks the better. *shudder*

[lotus0kid.livejournal.com]

Yeah, I definitely heard that he had other people do the writing, he just came up with the ideas. But his ego something made him decide to write the prequels himself.

And so- *shuts mouth*

[gingerberrysnap.livejournal.com]

Ha, I saw Attack of the Clones in theatres. Also unironically. Transformers I watched on TV. But yeah, they both deserve to be mocked mercilessly.

[lotus0kid.livejournal.com]

I.. kind of did too, back when I had hope that it could actually be a decent movie. Poor naive me. Transformers I had no hope for, and barely kept my attention even with the riffing.